Ostrzeżenie o treści: accurate summary of cf/hetzner to reshare
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peeps are still asking questions, so here's an accurate summary you can link to when they ask.
for reference, i am the admin of woem.men. we do allow nsfw content, but thats not the focus of woem.men, as woem.men is a trans safe space for users of all ages. we require lewd content to be CWed, and actually encourage our users to make an account on our sister instance, lewd.lgbt instead, if they wanna post lewd stuff
anyways...
about a month and a half ago, i discovered that my ex partner is a serial groomer, and banned her from woem.men. i have significant evidence, and have had other instances in our circle verify it's authentic. unfortunately, for a specific person, named emma, this wasnt enough.
emma went on a crusade against woem.men, claiming that i was the real groomer, trying to push the spotlight away from myself, basically using my ex as the scapegoat.
she made reports to my old provider, hivelocity, linking callout, evidence, and vent posts regarding my ex, claiming we were trying to incite harassment. hivelocity did not look into the claims, and instead required that i just take down the posts.
so, i created a cloudflare account to try to hide the next provider, and migrated all services to hetzner. the plan wasnt to stay with hetzner for long: just to wait out a few months until nulled llc had capacity to home woem.men and our sister services. hetzner seemed fine, as i had talked to other instances who use them for hosting too
a week or two later (this last Saturday), i got an email from hetzner: abuse report from cloudflare, child pornography on your server. the email basically showed a forwarding chain: emma's deadname -> cloudflare -> hetzner. cloudflare included information on how to bypass cloudflare to verify that woem.men is, indeed, hosted on hetzner. the original report from emma included spurious definitions of "yuri", and a falsified text representation of the image. emma also said that she reported the artwork to authorities for being CSAM
for reference, if you havent seen the artwork floating around yet, its artwork of two fully clothed girls, probably something like 17-21 years old, kissing romantically. nothing worse than what you've seen in a disney movie between two het couples
hetzner did not ask me to remove the content. hetzner told me to remove the entirety of woem.men. and if i didnt comply within 24 hours, the entire server's network would be locked. (they dont provide kvm access, just ssh access, so that would mean zero access to the server.)
i replied that the image was not CSAM, but i could remove just the url, and if that would suffice. and hetzners next reply (paraphrased):
due to the nature of the site, the site is inherently adult content, which is against our terms of service, section [yada yada yada, no adult content, nothing illegal, etc]
fedi was catching wind of this situation, and began trying to get hetzner's attention on twitter, bluesky, etc. my friend began migrating woem.men to her infrastructure.
a few hours later, i got an email back (paraphrasing again): "okay, ashten, just remove the url, and we'll close the case."
woem.men is already on my friend's infra, and so, is safe for the time being. but hetzner has proven itself to be transphobic and homophobic in one email chain.
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q. the artwork was iffy, so i understand why hetzner did what they did a. disney has literally shown very similar depictions, but is considered pg and acceptable. the difference is that this is in the style of anime, and involves two girls kissing
q. im not sure this is evidence that hetzner is transphobic/homophobic a. okay, consider this: maps instances are allowed to run on hetzner just fine. same with techbro instances which are commonly blocked for poor moderation regarding loli/csam. but woem.men was given 24 hours to shut down due to the "nature of the site"
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edit: hetzner is now starting PR. they're claiming that they apologized. ive double checked my email and havent gotten anything like an apology. the last email i got was:
"Hello, Yes, the ticket has been closed. Kind regards, Abuse Team"
they are also avoiding tackling certain concerns, such as how they said the entirety of woem.men is adult content
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