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This is the most important comment I have heard this week — Poland’s Prime Minister Donald Tusk:

“500 million Europeans are asking 300 million Americans to defend them against 140 million Russians […] Europe, if there is something we lack today, it is not economic or demographic power, but the belief that we are truly a global force.”

I think Tusk hits the bullseye here. Those 140 million Russians are already fully occupied by fighting Ukraine, and our leaders act like we are Liechtenstein.

in reply to Randahl Fink

I think what we are lacking is a sense of unity.

There is still way too much nationalism and protection in the heads of most Europeans and most European politicians.

Especially the far right-idiots fail to understand that we need a strong united Europe not a bunch of little countries fighting each other. Now more than ever.

in reply to Randahl Fink

Send Europe's equivalent of Seal Team Six to snatch Putin and deliver him to the The Hague.

A fantasy of course but that would solve everyone's problems, wouldn't it?

in reply to Randahl Fink

Hey what's wrong with Liechenstein? Franz Joseph II, Prince of Liechtesnstein, was the one to give a home and money to Curt Herzstark, inventor of the legendary Curta pocket mechanical calculator.

Before then, Curt had been forced to stop work on his calculator by the Nazis, who forced him to make precision instruments for the German army, and then threw him into Buchenwald until U.S. troops liberated it.

See? Seeeeee? Eh? Eeeeeh? Liechtenstein.

(pic Wikipedia)

in reply to Randahl Fink

I don't know how to re-post this over to here, so I'll just repeat:

There's real "Iraq War Energy" on the front page of the Post this morning.

The attitude towards the importance of other countries;

"Zelensky doesn't hold the cards" == "The support of every other country combined is as nothing compared to the USA."

And "...not a smart strategy" was very Iraq-War editorial. Nothing about ILLEGAL or IMMORAL, just "bad strategy".

It's like calling the Mafia a "bad life strategy".

in reply to Randahl Fink

That's a totally useless comparison of the Polish PM.

It doesn't matter how many people a country or Union has, the only thing that matters in the 'Age of the Bullies' is the actual military power.
And Europe - like it or not - is a dwarf in this regard compared to the USA.

in reply to Randahl Fink

It really is pathetic. We could have helped Ukraine to end the war already. But, it's not too late if we act now: urgently boost military production in European countries and invest massively on defence at home and in Ukraine.

Russians losing. Let's get it through the line and help Ukraine defeat them this year.

in reply to Randahl Fink

Yes. It's so weird that rich nations cower before Putin. Russia is on the skids and more sanctions could crash their economy which is smaller than California. Why do people believe Putin's propaganda fantasies? That is why Biden not giving Ukraine everything they needed on Day One makes me absolutely furious!!

ipi.org/ipi_issues/detail/russ…

in reply to Randahl Fink

but 300 millions Americans already lost to 140 million russians, Tusk said only half sentence.
in reply to Randahl Fink

He also said that the transatlantic cooperation is central, which is remarkably tone-deaf.
in reply to Randahl Fink

Also don’t look too closely at forecasts of U.S. military capabilities and readiness because it ain’t pretty. The U.S. is enormously wasteful with its defense budget.
in reply to Randahl Fink

Poland is going to be a more important player in EU in the future. Not to mention they're (still?) the third largest military power in NATO and largest in the EU.

I think it was Tusk I listened to a radio program about. He could become the next Merkel going by what that program said.

All speculation of course.

in reply to Randahl Fink

it's not 140 millions Russian though. It's a handful of oligarch, and the soldiers who do what they're told to do.
in reply to Randahl Fink

one way to muscle up is to start issuing ITAR right back at the US.

The US doesn't make all of its own weapons, and relies on Europe for a bunch of weapon components. Maybe Europe gets to start saying where the US gets to use or transfer weapons with European components.

That was kind of handwaved away while the US was a friendly ally and global hegemon. But if things are going to be fraught and transactional....

in reply to Randahl Fink

"Este es el comentario más importante que he escuchado esta semana: el primer ministro polaco Donald Tusk:

“500 millones de europeos están pidiendo a 300 millones de estadounidenses que los defiendan contra 140 millones de rusos […] Europa, si hay algo que nos falta hoy en día, no es poder económico o demográfico, sino la creencia de que somos verdaderamente una fuerza global”.

Creo que Tusk da en el blanco aquí. Esos 140 millones de rusos ya están totalmente ocupados luchando contra Ucrania, y nuestros líderes actúan como si fuéramos Liechtenstein."

@randahl

in reply to Randahl Fink

Interesting how the recent #US behavior has resulted in a massive shift outside of the US. In a sense it has totally backfired.

#Canada is now more united than at any point in its history, and the #EU is finally waking up and stepping into its leadership role.

We can now all collectively give the big middle finger to the USA.

#cdnpoli #Canada #Europe

in reply to Randahl Fink

Exactly, and allow themselves being bullied by a megalomaniac demented idiot…

Hope the wakeup call is there now.

in reply to Randahl Fink

the problem is that Europe is not one, are 27. In practice there is no real unity of action.
in reply to Randahl Fink

And I could ask: Is he going to be the first commander in chief of a united European military structure?
in reply to Randahl Fink

WHO:

>an alarming number of people continue to face food insecurity and malnutrition as global hunger levels have plateaued for three consecutive years, with between 713 and 757 million people undernourished in 2023—approximately 152 million more than in 2019 when considering the mid-range (733 million)<

>>and our leaders act like we are Liechtenstein.

Just sayin'.

in reply to Randahl Fink

Even before sanctions Russia's per-capita GDP was smaller than Romania's. Total GDP smaller than Canada or Brazil. The only thing that enables them to be a military power at all is dictatorship. No free people would allow itself to be so disproportionately militarized and impoverished.
in reply to Randahl Fink

Russia’s economy I think it’s smaller than France’s economy or Germany, I can’t remember which. The idea that they could actually tackle the full force of Europe’s military capacity is ridiculous.

Only nukes have kept this proxy war. The demographics of Russia are not a cliff, but a black hole. Putin‘s war has cost Russia several generations.

The consequence of Ukrainian victory is access to resources Russia supplies, but instead of a malificar (see dragon age), an ally.

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in reply to Randahl Fink

Liechtenstein's army was probably the only one that came back from all its wars with more soldiers than it went.
in reply to Randahl Fink

Please imagine the following with a Rick-and-Morty-voice about squirrels: "Don't fuck with the Liechtensteiners!"
in reply to Randahl Fink

Alternatively the issue is not simply numbers of people or economic power, it’s might be military and strategic power.
in reply to Randahl Fink

A cynic would say:
Not really 140 million russians anymore, since Putin "lost" afaik about 800.000 soldiers in Ukraine. And he is not stopping...

It's so horrible.😱😭
All this to invade Ukraine and go on a killing, torture and kidnapping spree, to erase a country and a culture. 🤬

Stay strong Ukraine ✊

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in reply to Randahl Fink

Yes, it is time for Europe to grow confidence again. We have lived in the shadow of the US for way to long.
in reply to Randahl Fink

@bert_hubert well, almost everybody had to learn how to get groceries, organise the fridge and find work when they finally moved out of the parents home and emancipated themselves. But it wasn‘t necessarily easy.
in reply to Randahl Fink

Mr. Tusk is framing argument with population to confront Russia. It's the danger of
conventional war turning into nuclear. That's why U.S. nuclear deterrent is paramount in supporting Ukraine.
in reply to Randahl Fink

It's time for Europe (EU) getting ONE country.
European Federation. Countries now will get Staates then.
This ist what Trump fears.
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in reply to Randahl Fink

America is not the same country that fought WWII. And Europe is now more united, perhaps with the exception of Hungary. Europe has the industry and technology, perhaps it also has the will now, knowing that it must stand on its own, along with Canada. It can no longer depend on the formerly United States.
But even though he has divided the US into a shambles via Trump, Putin has failed. NATO will stand, even without the US.
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in reply to Randahl Fink

Hey, don't neglect Liechtenstein. The country had guts to ban Nazi party in 1943, something that many states nowadays fail to do.

Also, I like Liechtenstein's attitude to war: for the last one it took part in, the principality sent mighty force of 80 men, of which 81 came back… because they fought in no battle, and made a new friend. (okay, story seems a bit apocryphal, but still)

in reply to Randahl Fink

Don't forget. The USA has always placed themselves in the leading position.

"European countries needn't develop nuclear weapons. We will provide the nuclear umbrella and will be central command."
Selling rocket systems that need their GPS systems.

Together with the hope/ believe in many (western) countries that Russia had become member of the international community and no longer the enemy has made us complacent.
The wake-up call is there, but getting our baring is not easy.

in reply to Randahl Fink

The Simple Math ?
The History of 2 World Wars ?
Is this:
Threats happen, when a Bully has the power of the Atomic Bomb his population numbers don't matter?
So 140 million is enough
500 million?
Better get the Bomb
MAD is a concept that worked for 75 yrs
America under Trump the Sociopathic Pal to Putin/Russia is a game Changer
Get The Bomb
You may not like me saying it ?
But that is the course that has been set
The Freedom & Balance in the World/Planet depends on managing HELL'sDEVILS!
in reply to Randahl Fink

the 21st Century is in the nuclear age. In the nuclear age the size of one’s population does not define survivability.

To treat a conflict between nuclear powers in 2025 as if it is merely an echo of world wars from the last century is to mischaracterize the realities of now in vital ways.

"I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - likely falsely attributed to Albert Einstein

in reply to David August

@davidaugust I am not seeing nuclear weapons making much of a difference for Russia in Ukraine, no matter the constant sabre rattling.
in reply to Randahl Fink

I think they make all the difference. If not for the bombs Russia has NATO would be much more aggressive in protecting it's borders. There are several operations NATO countries completed- Iraq, Serbia, Afganistan...
in reply to Randahl Fink

I guess it's not just about number of people but military equipment . People can't just fight against tanks, artillery, planes ...etc..
Unfortunately Europe will have to direct more resources towards this rather than more productive choices
in reply to Randahl Fink

When will Europe awake?
The #KGB tune is heared in stereo there since Jan., 20th.

Yes, #EU strength is largely enough to crunch Putin without his #Krasnov agent, but if the #US army is hijacked by him to fight EU then it is 500 M vs 450 M and a nuclear stock outnumbering EU's one.

in reply to Randahl Fink

S U P E R 😍😍😍

Ich hoffe, #Tusk trägt das fleißig in die nächsten europäischen Treffen und kann die zögerlichen Europäer motivieren, sich auf ihre gemeinsame Stärke zu besinnen und sich gerade zu machen für
#Europa 🇪🇺 und
die #Ukraine 🇺🇦

in reply to Randahl Fink

The problem that despite being in the EU is that we still are thinking and very often if not most often act like separate, national states remains and that is our weak point!

We need to become a European Nation.
We need to stop dividing ourselves and let us conquer.

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in reply to Randahl Fink

Trump asked Starmer if the uk thinks they can fight alone against Russia. The British Empire once conquered the world. Never in our Historie was europe united.