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Oxford researchers examined 24 meat and dairy substitutes found that once land use, water use and so on are factored in, almond milk and veggie bacon are worse for the climate than the products they are intended to replace.
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Sibrosan
in reply to Col • • •Please explain how you came to that conclusion???
I looked up the research and from what I read, the environmental impact of animal milk and bacon is actually much, much larger than that of almond milk and veggie bacon.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2319010121
Col
in reply to Sibrosan • • •8Petros [Signal: Petros.63] doesn't like this.
Sibrosan
in reply to Col • • •That's not an answer to my question.
Please explain how you came to that conclusion, because it looks like you are reporting the opposite of what the researchers found.
Quoting from the report:
"According to our analysis (Fig. 1C), all meat and milk alternatives had lower environmental impacts per serving than the comparable meat and milk products."
Kelvin n0mql EN35ld
in reply to Sibrosan • • •@sibrosan
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/environment/article/save-the-planet-avoid-almond-milk-and-eat-beans-vegans-told-dtx7kt5g9
This links to an article that makes the same claim.
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8Petros [Signal: Petros.63]
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Sibrosan
in reply to Kelvin n0mql EN35ld • • •@kelvin0mql
I can't access that article.
As far as I can determine, the link I provided is the report of those Oxford researchers, and it comes to the opposite conclusion.
8Petros [Signal: Petros.63]
in reply to Sibrosan • •Sibrosan
in reply to 8Petros [Signal: Petros.63] • • •What do you mean, toggle reader view? I have no login and I don't want to subscribe.
Kelvin n0mql EN35ld
in reply to Sibrosan • • •@sibrosan @8petros
See the icon that looks like a printed sheet of paper on the right edge of the address bar?
Just to the right of "almond-milk-and..."?
That's the button for "toggle reader view".
Sibrosan
in reply to Kelvin n0mql EN35ld • • •Aha. The additional text that becomes visible doesn't explain the conclusion re the veggy bacon. But it explains "Almond milk was also worse for the environment than cow’s milk on a per-calorie basis."
So, apparently, almond milk is *not only* much better for the environment on a per-serving basis, but a serving contains much less calories as well, so replacing cow milk by almond milk also makes a lot of sense if you are concerned with being overweight.
Kelvin n0mql EN35ld
in reply to Sibrosan • • •@sibrosan @8petros
Yeah, there's propaganda on at least two sides of every issue, & Crazy Uncle Col shows up spouting god knows what that he heard god knows where, written by someone that has a hair up their bum for god knows why.
Dropping misinformation alternative facts like turds in the punchbowl.
But he also often posts something amusing. ((shrug))
Col
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in reply to 8Petros [Signal: Petros.63] • — (Internet) •Col
in reply to Sibrosan • • •8Petros [Signal: Petros.63]
in reply to Col • — (Internet) •From Abstract:
Your reporting is wrong. Please kindly correct it.
Kelvin n0mql EN35ld
in reply to Col • • •@sibrosan
"I've just reported this." is a cop-out. You've regurgitated it like some crank at the pub, without naming a source. "I read somewhere..." is BS.
And "take any dispute up with the authors" is BS if you don't link the source.
If you're just parroting what you heard, without saying where you heard it, what use are you?
Col
in reply to Kelvin n0mql EN35ld • • •Sibrosan
in reply to Col • • •@kelvin0mql
So if your bio says "I post without endorsing things of interest", that's an excuse to make claims that turn out to be fake news?
Note that you flat out claimed that those Oxford scientists found almond milk and veggie bacon worse for the environment. That is apparently contradicted by their own report. Since you didn't attribute that claim to someone else, it makes sense that any fact checking enquiries be directed to yourself. What exactly is abusive about that?
Col
in reply to Sibrosan • • •Kelvin n0mql EN35ld
in reply to Sibrosan • • •@sibrosan
See, he knows that the most common term for the social media technique he uses is "attention whore", but he dislikes the negative connotation of that 2nd word.
Then he's afraid to be seen as someone who blocks people for petty disagreement, & asks you to un-follow.
Weak sauce. 100% weak sauce.