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I am remembering the time I got dogpiled on the birb site for asking why people insist on romanticizing Hades and Persephone.

If I did another thesis, I would write it on the internet popularity of this couple, and the underlying cultural and psychological reasons... 😄

It continues to baffle and fascinate me that this is the ship people chose as their favorite.

#Kaos #mythology #romance #storytelling

in reply to Dr. Zalka Csenge Virág

I had no idea anyone thought about it that way. I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised.
in reply to Dr. Zalka Csenge Virág

Perhaps the "I can fix him!" narrative? 🤔

I am hardly an expert on the romance genre, but "Woman Fixes Broken Man Through Her Love" seems to be rather common.

in reply to Dr. Zalka Csenge Virág

Afaik the whole mythology is told from the point of view of her mother, and the part that isn't paints her as REALLY enjoying her role as a death goddess to the point of shouldering Hades aside. So taken from that, it's easy to jump to the "mother's just cockblocking" conclusion. Given that Hades is that "weird guy you shouldn't be associating with, what were you even thinking, he might be dangerous" that a lot of girls fall for once or twice while teenagers, the popularity of that ship is not that surprising at all.
in reply to sahqon

@sahqon see I keep seeing claims like that online. Including "oh there are older sources where she goes voluntarily!" But no one ever quotes any actual sources for those claims. And I have seen Classicists fact-checking the "voluntary" claim and its just not there.
in reply to Dr. Zalka Csenge Virág

in reply to Dr. Zalka Csenge Virág

I can't find any of that "voluntary" factual claims that you talk about, other than some astrological mumbo-jumbo, but I seem to recall one story that started with something like "everybody forgot that she went willingly", and iirc, it was a fanfiction. It was written in a very decisive manner but didn't pose as actual fact, I just can't find it right now (and it's driving me up the wall, will keep trying). Was going around a few years ago. Not possible to find anything on AO3 now what with every fandom having a hades/persephone version of their main pairing that then shows up on search lol!

...but that should also tell you how much people are into that new interpretation of the story.

in reply to Dr. Zalka Csenge Virág

I have similar feelings about Odysseus: he is just a clever psychopath, using everybody around him, from "his men" to Penelope herself.
in reply to 8Petros [Signal: Petros.63]

@8petros oh oh oh do NOT get me started on him, I have a full hour storytelling show on the story of Palamedes 😄😄
in reply to Dr. Zalka Csenge Virág

In recent years this video game probably has also helped https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hades_(video_game) As a game it is quite good and it contains a lot of quite wholesome takes, thus, it also influences people minds about the material it takes inspiration from.
in reply to Dr. Zalka Csenge Virág

If I had to guess I’d say it’s because to modern audiences it *feels* like the healthiest, most functional relationship in Greek mythology *if* you can find a way to excuse that one thing…