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Some of us need to re-read 1984 and get a better understanding of what 'newspeak' is, and how the sanitization of language is used to enable horrors.
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Air Quotes Comedian
Air Quotes Comedian
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I have an optimistic belief based on no evidence other that they would have have fully 1984'd us already but that language itself refuses to stop evolving outside their control.

Gen Z "Can't read" give me a fucking break. (Something else I saw that seems to relate).

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Pope Bob the Unsane
Pope Bob the Unsane
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@Air_Quotes_Comedian do you feel I am saying "Gen Z can't read" ?
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Ken Milmore
Ken Milmore
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This is tricky stuff: Both the bad guys and the good guys work to limit language. I think it was different in Orwell's day because people couldn't publish hate to the world at the touch of a button.
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Ken Milmore
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I was reflecting on the fact that sanitisation of language is not always bad, and may occasionally be necessary. There is newspeak/doublespeak, which you were referring to, but also there is suppression of inflammatory words and hate speech. The case against such censorship is easier to make for printed books, and harder online where quickfire posting can easily lead to nasty escalation. I guess a lot of people may be on here because that has worked out so badly on other platforms.
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Pope Bob the Unsane
Pope Bob the Unsane
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@kbm0 I think one thing working against us, in general, is that we appear to be inclined to read escalation in things that were not meant to escalate.

Like, we read a negative / mocking / mean tone in someone's words when they had no intention of them being heard that way.

I think it would not be the end of the world if slurs and other hate speech dropped out of human knowledge. Something to be said about language facilitating thinking.

@Ken Milmore
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Ken Milmore
Ken Milmore
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"Columbus sailed the Atlantic, the first steam engines tottered into motion, the
British squares stood firm under the French guns at Waterloo, the one-eyed scoundrels of the nineteenth century praised God and filled their pockets; and this is where it all led --to labyrinthine slums and dark back kitchens with sickly, ageing people creeping round and round
them like blackbeetles."
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Ken Milmore
Ken Milmore
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Sorry, I should have posted this in my own feed as it is of little relevance to your post. It is from "The Road to Wigan Pier".
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Happy Hairy Heathen ☠️
Happy Hairy Heathen ☠️
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I recall the introduction of widespread language control in the early 1990s being the work of the Democratic Leadership Council, the leadership of which was once served by house slaves in the Arkansas governor's mansion, and whose matriarch is responsible for the capricious destruction of Libya and the present Ukranazi war.
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Ken Milmore
Ken Milmore
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Another big theme in 1984 is the suppression of memory/history. It seems to me that when I was young there was still a collective memory of the horrors and privations of WWII, and the fear of repeating them, which maybe doesn't exist so strongly today. To what extent that has been politically engineered out of us, or whether it is just that decades of peace (in the West) has made people naturally more reckless I'm still not sure.

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