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Did someone say new tech nonprofit? Let's dig in!

https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2024/04/mastodon-forms-new-u.s.-non-profit/

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The fact that he's a blockchain bro already tells me that he'll be questionable at best on environmental issues.

Then we get into all his AI shenanigans and it really makes me wonder why Mastodon needs an AI grifter like this on the Board, if they're really going to be the happy, shiny nonprofit they claim.

in reply to MF Dume

Once I'm able to scroll past Amir and Mastodon's CFO, I reach Biz Stone, who did such a good job of turning around Twitter several years ago that he's being brought aboard to help monetize, err, I mean stabilize, the Fedi.
in reply to MF Dume

So between the Mastodon c-suite (and allied instances) aggressively embracing Threads and BlueSky, and this signaling of AI fuckery to come, seems like the Mastodon founders are tired of being indie grinders and are ready to cash in and let the enshittification begin.

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@rysiek

I expect the Mastodon Bros to play with fire, get burned, and enshittify their baby.

I also expect power users to smell it coming and forge paths out of it.

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in reply to MF Dume

The good thing is we're on ActicityPub.

I am hoping something like Goto Social gets a little more support and I can move across full time, I had hopes for fire fish but.... I'm already spending way more time on Lemmy.

in reply to MF Dume

I already blocked mastodon.social because the moderation there boosts Nazis and bans antifa.
in reply to immibis

@immibis It's sad to see how quickly it's spreading here, considering Mastodon was supposed to be the safe place.
in reply to MF Dume

that was always a lie. Most mastodon instances are run by Nazis - simply because they keep making new instances to evade block lists. What it actually does is take away control from Elon Musk.
in reply to immibis

@immibis True. Much like how Jack Dorsey's Twitter let hate accounts multiply because more accounts meant more love from Wall Street.
in reply to MF Dume

no, not like that at all, because the Nazis have to pay for their instances.
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@immibis
I haven't figured out yet whether the targets of nazis have an easier time here than on the silos or not - I hear a lot from some people that it isn't, but then, I would be hearing that from some people no matter what, wouldn't I?

But I *am* pretty sure, based on this simple fact, that the nazis have a more difficult time here than on the other ones.

No sysop here, other than @Gargron that is, is incentivized to get as many users as possible. The opposite is true. Key.

in reply to JimmyChezPants

compared to Twitter they have to keep making new instances, which is more work, but also means they don't get bored as quickly because there is more work to do. Who knows?
in reply to immibis

@immibis @Gargron

Only a certain kind of brain thrives on that, honestly - I firmly believe that most trolls who are not getting paid, are basically playing the same slot machine as any TikTok user, just a very custom one focused on upsetting libs as the jackpot.

There definitely are the nazis who stand up the servers and whatnot too, but with Twitter, the corp did that boring stuff while they just manipulated algos.

Their easy days are over now, even if *we* can't relax yet.

in reply to MF Dume

something that many people didn't appreciate is that the average person is really really lazy and thinks mastodon is mastodon.social.
in reply to immibis

@immibis
I had similar confusion about wordpress.org and wordpress.com for years.

It's always gonna be a problem, but anyone who joins dot social is *probably* gonna get exposed to enough salty fedizen rhetoric that they'll sort it out eventually, like I did about wordpress.

in reply to MF Dume

Sad, but inescapable conclusion.

Time to ditch Mastodon ASAP and find another platform.

in reply to Parade du Grotesque 💀

@ParadeGrotesque Not even really a need for that. It's designed to be able to defederate bad actors. Worst case, mastodon.social ends up in a containment zone. Not nothing of value is lost, but overall, not much.
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@SiteRelEnby @ParadeGrotesque
That's the great bit about it, it's no longer an all-or-nothing, stay-or-lose-everything proposition.

We have established a zone where interoperability is the focus; if we leave Mastodon entirely, we lose that progress. This is not like "staying on Twitter to keep up the fight," this is good fertile soil for future development, even if a couple of VC scum are trying to get a few fingers in the ground too.

They'll get no algos here and lose interest.

in reply to JimmyChezPants

@SiteRelEnby @ParadeGrotesque
I'm a bit paranoid now that I came off as a white dude telling everyone not to worry. Not singing kumbaya over here.

I actually think that the future will involve a number of different federated networks with different foci, many of them not talking to each other at all, or possibly through some sort of prophylactic instance, where this is benefit to some contact (infosec, for instance), that applies hard whitelist-only type filters.