It is incredibly frustrating to see. I do have to ask, will the bridge to Bluesky be silenced/blocked (if not already)?
Especially since a while ago they also **supposedly** acknowledged that they won't be investing any more time in maintaining it - it will eventually just break. Rather to break the connection now if not already
EDIT: Although I am certain I read it somewhere, I can't find the source. So it might be just a figment of my mind, apologies for any confusion!
The same reason why people bow to power everywhere: fear.
Can you imagine what happens if they'd refuse to host ICE? Bluesky would be dead within a week. Which means people would lose their jobs. People care more about their own families than they care about a great cause. That's why terror works in dictatorships.
Sure, we can talk how wrong it is, but we are living very comfortably with all the freedoms we could wish for. But they do not.
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"“The Encyclopedia Galactica defines a robot as a mechanical apparatus designed to do the work of a man. The marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation defines a robot as "Your Plastic Pal Who's Fun to Be With. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy defines the marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetic Corporation as "a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes,”
I'm all against ICE and I support abolishing them, but... What else should Bluesky have done? Should they add a special rule "Donald Trump's agencies are restricted"? This is a social network for everyone. Freedom of speech, besides bigotry. This is not an "alt-left-tech" platform.
You can be sure that unlike Twitter ICE will be punished for any kind of Nazi behavior. But even if you know what they'll do, you can't deny them a benefit of doubt, unfortunately, because if you'll make one exception, you can make anything you'll want an exception.
unfortunately, this is the rules, and everyone should follow the rules.
Unless this SS already has swastika in its profile picture or in their profile bio, they will be allowed. The benefit of doubt. You can't do anything to anyone, if they didn't try to do it. You can only look closely for them, and as soon as they'll do something harmful, bonk them with a banhammer or whatever.
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but what is your criteria for federating with a server?
I get having whatever rules you want for accounts you host, but a fedi where federation is constantly breaking over hating the accounts others host (when they don't harass your users) is not a reliable network.
the bluesky conundrum on this front is that they aren't really decentralized. so allowing your users to see conservative accounts means hosting them. we should have conservative servers here and mostly federate with them.
I think they're stuck. You're a US company with people working in the US, with a fascist government. If you don't want them to take your head, you have to do what they say.
You can't escape because you've not decentralised fast enough before fascism took control.
What do you do except to be taken hostage. But it's not like there wasn't other issues before.
But hey, at least Bluesky is decentralized and anyone can easily run their own instance just like Mastodon... wait... I mean sorry, that's not entirely true at all...
1. do you think verification has anything to do with endorsement 2. do you think it would be better if they had immediately banned ICE and created more pressure on a company already stretched very thin
It was always going to happen with a USA-based social media platform. BS is just rebranded Twitter. People who expected anything else have been successfully fooled.
you’re probably saw this, but just in case somebody else needs — this post which identifies a blue sky bridge that we can block to keep our traffic from flowing there.
people who thought otherwise were ostriching their heads in sand with #jack on board, and VC funding. Same goes for all the #independentmedia and #resistance setting up on substack. #lessonslearned
Whinging about "Nazis" (people you disagree with) while having a Ukraine flag in your pfp is a level of cognitive dissonance heretofore unseen by modern man.
There is no single person in charge of the fediverse. It has no owner and no boss. That is very different from X which is owned and controlled by Elon Musk. Decisions about X come from the top because it is a private company. X lives or dies by the choices of one owner.
This is the default ideology in ATProto world. I recall a ATProto advocate arguing at a meetup that Alex Jones should be welcomed.
They believe that everybody should be platformed, nobody should be censored, but that’s okay because (eventually) everyone will have full control over the feed and hosting. Even if you believe in that… it’s a long time coming. Bluesky still has essentially complete control. They keep promising that one day it won’t be like that.
So excuse my ignorance, but I reckon there's some sort of bridge instance involved which somehow mediates the traffic between Bluesky and the fediverse. So my question is, can this bridge just be defederated?
@HarriettMB I won't boost or interact with Bluesky accounts anymore (I wouldn't boost them into others' feeds even before all this) but am giving it like, a week to see if some of those I follow there will jump ship.
Whether they do so or not, after that I'm blocking the bridge. Those who stay will have made their choice. 🤷🏻♂️
American way of life depends on backing dictatorships all around the world, who kill thousands total each month through poverty, executions or by luring a certain country's people into protest, letting them expect military action, only to bail at the last second and causing thousands to be murdered on the street for nothing.. Suddenly ICE, an internal force in the USA, kills one or two people and it's the biggest deal in the world? LOL
But some people are so thirsty for clicks, how can they give up those sweet nazi endorsements, that's basically like actually doing something instead of blowing performative hot air.
stux⚡️
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •I really don’t understand why people running these platforms are actively supporting this..
Money over ethics, like always perhaps
Let it be clear, I will NOT and NEVER EVER host any fascist organizations, period
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Aprazeth
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •It is incredibly frustrating to see. I do have to ask, will the bridge to Bluesky be silenced/blocked (if not already)?
Especially since a while ago they also **supposedly** acknowledged that they won't be investing any more time in maintaining it - it will eventually just break. Rather to break the connection now if not already
EDIT: Although I am certain I read it somewhere, I can't find the source. So it might be just a figment of my mind, apologies for any confusion!
Attila Kinali
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •The same reason why people bow to power everywhere: fear.
Can you imagine what happens if they'd refuse to host ICE? Bluesky would be dead within a week. Which means people would lose their jobs. People care more about their own families than they care about a great cause. That's why terror works in dictatorships.
Sure, we can talk how wrong it is, but we are living very comfortably with all the freedoms we could wish for. But they do not.
Pretergeek
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •It is Accelerationism in action. Joe Scott did a great video about it on YT a while ago. But you can access it from archive.org if you prefer.
archive.org/details/understand…
Understanding Accelerationism : Joe Scott : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
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stux⚡️
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Pretty sad to see how many people are defending this bullshit!
If you’re going to a hotel and management is letting everyone in without a care in the world. Do you go to that hotel or do you look further?
I don’t care how thin stretched Bluesky is, you simply don’t allow nazis on YOUR platform
It’s not that hard, trust me!
Thanks for all red flags btw, good filter
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FallsMom 🌻
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •This accelerationism stuff makes me remember:
"“The Encyclopedia Galactica defines a robot as a mechanical apparatus designed to do the work of a man. The marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation defines a robot as "Your Plastic Pal Who's Fun to Be With. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy defines the marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetic Corporation as "a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes,”
stux⚡️
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Adn yeah im going with a hotel reference
Seems kinda gfitting
stux⚡️
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •If you have setup a bridge from Mastodon to Bluesky you can disable it again here:
fed.brid.gy/
I leave mine on so they can see what i think about them
stux⚡️
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •“Verified by Bluesky on Jan 17 2026.”
That means the Bluesky team actually took time to give them a check and is okay with hosting them
Yes, if the owners allow nazi’s it’s a Nazi bar, plain and simple
Funny how people on Bsky come up with all kinds of bullshit excuses, they know lol
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Distante
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •What is happening in the US is barbaric, but I am not sure there is a right solution here.
Refusing to provide a platform seems to make sense, but on the other hand, it is stupid
Steven D Rowe 🇨🇦🇬🇧
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •338 followers? Why?
They are probably desperate to recruit dimwits, abusers and NAZI's to work for them, and that requires expanding their social media reach.
R.Marx
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •RoberttheReader
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •And give feedback.
NotQuiteLoona
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •I'm all against ICE and I support abolishing them, but... What else should Bluesky have done? Should they add a special rule "Donald Trump's agencies are restricted"? This is a social network for everyone. Freedom of speech, besides bigotry. This is not an "alt-left-tech" platform.
You can be sure that unlike Twitter ICE will be punished for any kind of Nazi behavior. But even if you know what they'll do, you can't deny them a benefit of doubt, unfortunately, because if you'll make one exception, you can make anything you'll want an exception.
stux⚡️
in reply to NotQuiteLoona • • •@notquiteloona Would you allow the SS or Gestapo also? Having some standards is not a bad thing
I think I have reasonable clear lines when it comes to allow and not, I’ll pre-ban Trump if I could yes
NotQuiteLoona
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •unfortunately, this is the rules, and everyone should follow the rules.
Unless this SS already has swastika in its profile picture or in their profile bio, they will be allowed. The benefit of doubt. You can't do anything to anyone, if they didn't try to do it. You can only look closely for them, and as soon as they'll do something harmful, bonk them with a banhammer or whatever.
stux⚡️
in reply to NotQuiteLoona • • •@notquiteloona oof.
Well thanks but no thanks
DNKrupinski 🧡🏴☠️
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Roknrol
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •There's a song for that.
youtu.be/OArru5OkVKE
Goodbye Blue Sky
YouTubeSebiturbo
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Let's stop that #TrumpReiterSS 2.0 on one of the digital #TrumpVolksempfänger.
Cody Bromley
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in reply to stux⚡️ • • •william.maggos
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •but what is your criteria for federating with a server?
I get having whatever rules you want for accounts you host, but a fedi where federation is constantly breaking over hating the accounts others host (when they don't harass your users) is not a reliable network.
the bluesky conundrum on this front is that they aren't really decentralized. so allowing your users to see conservative accounts means hosting them. we should have conservative servers here and mostly federate with them.
stux⚡️
in reply to william.maggos • • •@wjmaggos It depends, if the staff is hateful I see no other way but if it’s community members it’s to the staff to fix it
If they won’t they are as bad I guess
With Bsky it’s different since we don’t federate
Pamela Barroway – Biz Editor
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in reply to Pamela Barroway – Biz Editor • • •Pamela Barroway – Biz Editor
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in reply to stux⚡️ • • •🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 🐧 🥦
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Is there a link somewhere laying this all out?
There was something a few months ago about the CEO attacking POC and LGBTQIA+ plus people.
I guess the silicon valley elite just love going Nazi.
Olivia Vespera
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •I think they're stuck. You're a US company with people working in the US, with a fascist government. If you don't want them to take your head, you have to do what they say.
You can't escape because you've not decentralised fast enough before fascism took control.
What do you do except to be taken hostage. But it's not like there wasn't other issues before.
Lukas Murch ✅
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in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Athavariel - for peace
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Roni Rolle Laukkarinen
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •maxwell s. fritz
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •2. do you think it would be better if they had immediately banned ICE and created more pressure on a company already stretched very thin
stux⚡️
in reply to maxwell s. fritz • • •2. Yes
Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •i wana look up my post where i said bluesky is worse then twitter...that got a lot of hate.
Bluesky keeps proving me right....
Yes they are worse than twitter.
They see, know what ICE is doing and still let it on their platform and verified them.
They went against twitter as its better alternative...so should know how to do better....they choose to be just like it....and that makes em worse.
Some Guy
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in reply to stux⚡️ • • •stux⚡️
in reply to FallsMom 🌻 • • •@FallsMom We only have a bridge service, Masto is not federating with Bluesky by default
Not even possible
Matthijs De Smedt
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Darwin Woodka
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •CheapPontoon
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •you’re probably saw this, but just in case somebody else needs — this post which identifies a blue sky bridge that we can block to keep our traffic from flowing there.
mastodon.social/@Viss/11590792…
Viss
2026-01-17 01:50:36
Dgar
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •That’s odd. #Dgar just disappeared from Bluesky…
It’s not like they were big on indie music anyway.
M@ Bntn
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in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Neil Kandalgaonkar
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •This is the default ideology in ATProto world. I recall a ATProto advocate arguing at a meetup that Alex Jones should be welcomed.
They believe that everybody should be platformed, nobody should be censored, but that’s okay because (eventually) everyone will have full control over the feed and hosting. Even if you believe in that… it’s a long time coming. Bluesky still has essentially complete control. They keep promising that one day it won’t be like that.
Troy
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •panu
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Unknown parent • • •@HarriettMB @ApostateEnglishman I think.. if you block the @ domain that the bridge uses, perhaps that could work
I’ll have to do some more digging though
HarriettMB
Unknown parent • • •The Sleight Doctor 🃏🍉
Unknown parent • • •@HarriettMB I won't boost or interact with Bluesky accounts anymore (I wouldn't boost them into others' feeds even before all this) but am giving it like, a week to see if some of those I follow there will jump ship.
Whether they do so or not, after that I'm blocking the bridge. Those who stay will have made their choice. 🤷🏻♂️
DonCC
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