#FediSprzedi #ogłoszenie #sprzedam Nabyliśmy drukarkę laserową, w związku z czym jest na zbyciu #drukarka #inkjet #Epson L15150 #EcoTank #A3 / A3+ - nówka sztuka. Przedrukowała 480 stron, jest na rozszerzonej gwarancji do 2026 - szczegóły na #OLX.
3 500 zł: Oryginalne tusze (pierwszy zestaw). Odbiór najchętniej osobisty, ale możliwa wysyłka. Wszystkie informacje na zrzutach ekranu. Gwarancja wydłużona do 3 lat (wartość 600 zł)
Tanie tusze pigme...
@8Petros [Atlas Unshrugged]_ Ja bym tam dodał widoczne info, że to format A3 bo ze zdjęcia to słabo widać a przy tej cenie to dość kluczowe info. Na pewno ważniejsze niż to ile wydrukowała. BTW z licznika wynika że A3 to ona w ogóle nie drukowała .
Ostrzeżenie o treści: :alerta: About Hetzner :alerta:
If you have a website hosted on Hetzner, take it off from their servers immediately. This morning I woke up with my instance down and this message in my mailbox:
"Dear Ms...
We have noticed irregularities on your account, so we unfortunately cannot have a contract with you at the present time. We have therefore had to close your account.
In general, if customers give us incomplete or incorrect information, we have to close their accounts.
We cannot provide any information on individual cases. Thank you for your understanding.
Kind regards"
Without giving any warning or reason, they deleted my account with everything inside (Thankfully we have back ups every 12 hours). I couldn't even log into their site to open a ticket. They deleted my entire instance.
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I replied the email asking about what information was incomplete or incorrect. Their answer was "we can't provide you this information due to security reasons"
It was a Kafkanian situation. They didn't ask me for more information or indicate what was wrong. They didn't even warn me that something was wrong. They didn't give me at least 10 minutes to look for a new server. They deleted my account and any possibility of having access to their website in an unilateral decision. And I learned that, interestingly, this has already happened to another progressive instance. Another curiosity is that they host the website of AfD, the far-right-almost-nazi German party.
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In other words: a progressive and feminist instance is overthrown without explanation. An LGBTIQA+ instance is also taken down with no justification. But a far-right website is comfortably hosted in there, for years now, because they are the good guys according to Hetzner.
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Welcome to the corporate world, where every private company can terminate service to you. like this can happen with basically every hoster. 🤷♀️ Also don't expect hetzner support to go lengths for smol clients, that are like <10€ / month. i mean what can be learned from that is, don't put all your eggs in one nest. Also they gave an explaination: "In general, if customers give us incomplete or incorrect information, we have to close their accounts." they believe that information was incorrect or incomplete. They just didn't specify on what information that was.
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it is really strange how they do this. Also experienced getting rejected due to info I gave them and I had to investigate myself what could be perceived as wrong
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if possible, you should involve a lawyer and have a chat with BnetzA about it. Immediately terminating a contract without further information doesn't sound legal.
Ostrzeżenie o treści: mention of pro-contact pedophile fediverse instance
i'd also like to note that they supposedly host mapsupport (dot) de, an instance that proudly hosts people in support of child sexual abuse and probably people who are actual child abusers
@zayd I can't believe they can't give you a reason. Are you sure about the email? From them? Do you have the information about the far right content they host? It's still sound strange that they can't provide direct and individual reason.
What kind of law the content or the activity of your server broke?
You should try the legal way may be.
I don't understand what is progressive content. Is it against law? Your server was in Europe or other place?
@lautre we don't break the law. We are pro human rights and equality. We believe in climate change. We forbid pornography. We have Alt text in this instance as a rule, because we fight for inclusion. And the message was exactly what you read in the first post. I don't understand as much as you
actually that sounds a lot like your server/ account got freezed , because of police action. So maybe there was something going on your server, that you haven't been aware of. Normally the ISPs like herzner you could just call the support line and ask what wtf is going on, and you will get at least some info.
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was this hetzner cloud or a dedicated server? did you specify a name that doesn’t match your legal name or the one your payment provider has?
i’m curious because i’ve been with hetzner for 13 years and have had numerous abuse reports filed due to 0x0.st (like the ones attached), and it’s never been a problem even if i didn’t respond in a timely manner.
I wish more people were talking about this, people still push for and recommend Hetzner as a host when they really shouldn't be. I really hope this gets more visible so people stop using that awful hosting service.
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@iworx I didn't use VPN, I'm in Brazil. I signed up with my own name. We have the biggest instance in Brazil, feminist, pro-human rights, we have no illegal content, Alt text is a rule, because we have disabled people and we are all about inclusion.
And I have no clue what happened because they don't tell. Using "it didn't happen to me, therefore is not a problem" , is just lack of empathy. Good luck with these awful people.
Was that a dedicated server, a VM, just some webspace, or something else entirely?
(Not that I disagree with not using Hetzner, OVH, DO, etc. but curious about details and implications because these things have fundamental differences.)
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@Hetzner_Online Hey Hetzner, what's your response to this? As I am hosting business critical apps on your services, this makes me think how safe they are with you. It's not the first time I heard about something like this.
@PiiiepsBrummm no way. We are not envolved with anything. We are a Brazilian left-winger instance. I find funny that people are trying to find what is wrong with us and, even with evidence, find hard to believe that Hetzner is a piece of shit company.
Go to reddit and search for Hetzner. I'm not alone in this absurdity.
Ostrzeżenie o treści: :alerta: About Hetzner :alerta:
@iworx they ask for your location when you sign up and they have Brazil on the list, therefore they don't ban Brazil. Hetzner was suggested by a Brazilian friend who use their services for more than one year (he just pulled his sites out of Hetzner yesterday in solidarity) but it's not location. And we will never know what happened because they refused to say. I can have my conjectures when I don't have any answer.
so either people who have a grudge against you will shut you down with the weakest possible evidence or hetzner will do it themselves because of "incomplete or incorrect information" without warning and without description of the "irregularities" also "incorrect information" could be used against trans people who haven't changed their legal name
peeps are still asking questions, so here's an accurate summary you can link to when they ask.
for reference, i am the admin of woem.men. we do allow nsfw content, but thats not the focus of woem.men, as woem.men is a trans safe space for users of all ages. we require lewd content to be CWed, and actually encourage our users to make an account on our sister instance, lewd.lgbt instead, if they wanna post lewd stuff
anyways...
about a month and a half ago, i discovered that my ex partner is a serial groomer, and banned her from woem.men. i have significant evidence, and have had other instances in our circle verify it's authentic. unfortunately, for a specific person, named emma, this wasnt enough.
emma went on a crusade against woem.men, claiming that i was the real groomer, trying to push the spotlight away from myself, basically using my ex as the scapegoat.
she made reports to my old provider, hivelocity, linking callout, evidence, and vent posts regarding my ex, claiming we were trying to incite harassment. hivelocity did not look into the claims, and instead required that i just take down the posts.
so, i created a cloudflare account to try to hide the next provider, and migrated all services to hetzner. the plan wasnt to stay with hetzner for long: just to wait out a few months until nulled llc had capacity to home woem.men and our sister services. hetzner seemed fine, as i had talked to other instances who use them for hosting too
a week or two later (this last Saturday), i got an email from hetzner: abuse report from cloudflare, child pornography on your server. the email basically showed a forwarding chain: emma's deadname -> cloudflare -> hetzner. cloudflare included information on how to bypass cloudflare to verify that woem.men is, indeed, hosted on hetzner. the original report from emma included spurious definitions of "yuri", and a falsified text representation of the image. emma also said that she reported the artwork to authorities for being CSAM
for reference, if you havent seen the artwork floating around yet, its artwork of two fully clothed girls, probably something like 17-21 years old, kissing romantically. nothing worse than what you've seen in a disney movie between two het couples
hetzner did not ask me to remove the content. hetzner told me to remove the entirety of woem.men. and if i didnt comply within 24 hours, the entire server's network would be locked. (they dont provide kvm access, just ssh access, so that would mean zero access to the server.)
i replied that the image was not CSAM, but i could remove just the url, and if that would suffice. and hetzners next reply (paraphrased):
due to the nature of the site, the site is inherently adult content, which is against our terms of service, section [yada yada yada, no adult content, nothing illegal, etc]
fedi was catching wind of this situation, and began trying to get hetzner's attention on twitter, bluesky, etc. my friend began migrating woem.men to her infrastructure.
a few hours later, i got an email back (paraphrasing again): "okay, ashten, just remove the url, and we'll close the case."
woem.men is already on my friend's infra, and so, is safe for the time being. but hetzner has proven itself to be transphobic and homophobic in one email chain.
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q. the artwork was iffy, so i understand why hetzner did what they did a. disney has literally shown very similar depictions, but is considered pg and acceptable. the difference is that this is in the style of anime, and involves two girls kissing
q. im not sure this is evidence that hetzner is transphobic/homophobic a. okay, consider this: maps instances are allowed to run on hetzner just fine. same with techbro instances which are commonly blocked for poor moderation regarding loli/csam. but woem.men was given 24 hours to shut down due to the "nature of the site"
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edit: hetzner is now starting PR. they're claiming that they apologized. ive double checked my email and havent gotten anything like an apology. the last email i got was:
"Hello, Yes, the ticket has been closed. Kind regards, Abuse Team"
they are also avoiding tackling certain concerns, such as how they said the entirety of woem.men is adult content
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@eyrie we were here for four years inside Masto.host with no problems at all - since the instance got too big I went after another reliable servers. The police of deleting without warning and without giving any reason is mindblowing.
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@benzucker @wonka @eyrie I think they do that with non-european customers trusting there won't be a lawsuit (and they are right - I have no money and knowledge to sue a company in Germany). They will keep doing this.
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@wonka @benzucker @eyrie I don't even know how. That's the matter, but I have visibility. Most of the victims didn't have the size of Ursal and the visibility I individually have as an activist in Brazil (@DanielaAbade is my personal account) I knew that as soon as I made it public people would see, share and maybe force an answer from the company.
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It's complicated... Hetzner's HQ is in Gunzenhausen, looks like you'd need to contact the "Polizeiinspektion" there... but they direct you to a place that then says "this place does only there things, for everything else, contact the Polizeiinspektion directly". Meh.
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